3 Legionnaires to be prosecuted

dusaboss

Hyper Active Member
#2
I don't know. If everything is truth in this news ... Why should anyone defend anybody next time? In Sweden police can't apply force when is obviously needed because they can be prosecuted. I mean let see, how this gonna and but... Yes, nobody mentioned race and religion of attacker. Hmm, I'm guessing what that could be? He is Dutch, German? Nooo he has to be Icelandic Buddhist !!! :)
 

Joseph Cosgrove

Moderator
Legionnaire
#3
All three legionnaires should be publicly congratulated. It's a bit of a bummer while on perm to find yourself en garde à vue (in custody) for having stopped someone who had beaten up someone and stolen HER telephone. Dusa, I'm not going for the Icelandic Buddhist theory. But that is typical French journalism, the three heroes (or bad guys) can be named as being legionnaires but no mention of the scumbag.
 
#5
Well... Protecting the young lady and stopping her aggressor is a good move, but the legionnaires are being prosecuted for using ‘unnecessary violence’, probably because they were drunk. Having said that, being prosecuted is one thing, being sentenced is another. I personally doubt that this story will go very far...
 

Sarajevo1992

Super Active Member
#6
3 legionnaires and the criminal only had a broken tooth. Where is the excessive violence??? If this happened 25 years ago with 3 legionnaires (especially drunken ones) I doubt he would have survived.
 
#7
In 83, when I joined there was an incident aboard a train, Bordeaux - Marseille. A caporal-chef escorting wannabes to Aubagne. The caporal-chef, chef de détachement, got drunk at the wagon bar. Was an Arab civilian who crossed his path (don't know what was said, if any thing). The caporal-chef beats him up and threw him off the train, killed him ! TGV, is a high speed train what speed it was travelling ? = fast
He went down for a long period, the caporal-chef. Moral of the story : stay off the wagon.
 

dusaboss

Hyper Active Member
#8
Well... Protecting the young lady and stopping her aggressor is a good move, but the legionnaires are being prosecuted for using ‘unnecessary violence’, probably because they were drunk. Having said that, being prosecuted is one thing, being sentenced is another. I personally doubt that this story will go very far...
Were they drunk? Maybe they should ask him nicely to give phone back to lady? Yeah sure that would work for guy probably coming from culture where only fist in a head is effective way of communication in many conflict situations.
 
#10
3 legionnaires and the criminal only had a broken tooth. Where is the excessive violence???
Not my decision, of course, but the Prosecutor's. The article said that the Parquet (French for Public Prosecutor's Office, more or less the same as District Attorney in the US) wavered before deciding to indict the three legionnaires until one Prosecutor's Office member decide to go ahead an charge them.

In 83, when I joined there was an incident aboard a train, Bordeaux - Marseille. A caporal-chef escorting wannabes to Aubagne. The caporal-chef / chef de détachement, got drunk at the wagon bar. Was an Arab civilian who crossed his path (don't know what was said, if any thing). The caporal-chef beats him up and threw him off the train, killed him ! (...)
You got the story wrong Petit Caporal. The victim, an Algerian tourist, was actually beaten up and pushed out of the train (and killed) by the three Legion candidates (a Spaniard and two French) who were going from the Bordeaux Legion recruiting post to Aubagne. The caporal-chef was ‘only’ indicted for not doing anything against this (non-assistance à personne en danger). He said for his defense that he had been sleeping during the whole trip (not sure if he was drunk or not). This story is completely different from the one we're talking about. The Algerian passenger was beaten up and thrown out of the train by the three thugs for no reason at all. Just because they didn't like Arabs... And by the way, it wasn't a TGV (high-speed train), but a regular one (even today there's no TGV line between Bordeaux and Marseille).

Were they drunk? (...)
That's what the media say. I wasn't there to give them a breathe test...
 
#13
In a situation like this are the legionnaire(s), represented by an avocat/lawyer/solicitor, designated by the Legion or do they have to find one for themselves, paid by themselves? Am not a spécialiste, am a généraliste (it's not the same thing).
 

Joseph Cosgrove

Moderator
Legionnaire
#14
I know that at one time every regiment had a member of the CJAS, which were trainee lawyers doing their conscription, back in the day. A bit like the aspirants in the infirmary or the hospitals. I'm sure that the Legion will make sure that they are legally represented and will provide character references.
 
#15
I remember well the “CJAS” and the “Aspis”, used there service once or twice. The CJAS, told me to plead guilty, and I did (didn't have to appear, pris par le service). I was given a fine but was never paid... Something to do with a car, i think, but who cares?
An Aspi dentist ripped out one of my wisdom teeth, sec. ..MF
 

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