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Ok, I forgot, so, in the French Military then? (Army, Navy, Air Force, or whatever?)
 
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What does 'J' stand for, as in the 130 J ?
Jonny... Come on dude, give it a rest. Can I have my thread closed, please ?

I started it because, i found it contradictory, with the arrival of the A 400 M Question : 130 is Hercule (USA) and 160 is Franco / German, right ? Whatever! Once you see a plane landing bringing in supplies (food, booze, mail, munitions, kit kats, reinforcements or to haul your arse out of the whatever shithole you are in, you say merci to the Armée de l'Air).
 

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Yeah, I’m giving it a rest for sure, just told the Charly to go Foxtrot Hotel Sierra, so probably be barred now, But who cares? Not me for sure, keep sharing and communicating guys, that’s what this forum is all about!

Byeee

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I think the "J" has no specific meaning. It's like a version number of the 60+ year-old C-130 “Hercules” plane. The previous version of the C-130 was labeled H, if I'm not mistaken. Current issues with the A400M and an aging fleet of C-160 “Transall”, led the Air Force to the decision of purchasing some “Super-Hercules” as the C130-J is sometimes called.
Yes, Hercules is made by Lockheed (US) and the Transall was a Franco-German cooperation.
 

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I think the "J" has no specific meaning. It's like a version number of the 60+ year-old C-130 “Hercules” plane. The previous version of the C-130 was labeled H, if I'm not mistaken. Current issues with the A400M and an aging fleet of C-160 “Transall”, led the Air Force to the decision of purchasing some “Super-Hercules” as the C130-J is sometimes called.
Yes, Hercules is made by Lockheed (US) and the Transall was a Franco-German cooperation.
You also get the C-130J-30 which has a slightly extended fuselage.
A400 M has been plagued with political issues and financing, the one size fits all thing is causing some serious issues. For example the UK and Australia are now using the C130 as a tactical transport and the C17 ‘Globemaster’ for strategic transport. The A400 was meant to cover both.
Post shitum 😉
Airbus military in collaboration with CASA of Spain is making the EADS 295 which is a modern equivalent of the Transall.
 
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Jonny, Jonny... Where are you going to run to now? You’re stuck on an island, there's no way out.
It's another age, personnaly, I do not doubt your word. You could tell me that you humped Brigitte Bardot in the ‘pouf’ at Philippeville and I would believe you
Post Shitum
Is she a real blond?

At Rapace, J must have a signification. I'll check it out (curiosity and all that).
 

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You could tell me that you humped Brigitte Bardot in the ‘pouf’ at Philippeville and I would believe you
Post Shitum
Is she a real blond?
Yeah, we got quite close, actually. How did you guess? I’ll see if I can find a pic of us intimately together (and, yes, almost blond, and nice smelling!!)

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What conviced me was when you explained the no go zones, rememember ?
Mods have to understand also it is not always possible to upload docs, photos, lettres de félicitations etc. Especialy for the uncult aulder generations with fud phones and stiff little fingers (tin soldiers, you tube it). Smoking a spliff, guzziling a bottle of Merlot and scratching our pubes
5 years ago, maybe less.
I had no idea what was or is a troll, a sam, a vegan or a reinsertion. It makes me dizzy !

Yeah, we got quite close, actually. How did you guess? I’ll see if I can find a pic of us intimately together (and, yes, almost blond, and nice smelling!!)
Cute bitch, is she on heat? Anyway, i hope she enjoyed your presence.
 

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Thanks, Capo, and another thing is, we aulder lot tend to get a bit hot under the collar when some young puppy starts telling us that we are not telling our stories truly, as if we should have any need to tell fibs, or whatever. And, as if they knew better.
And yes, I remember the no-go zones in Algeria, but not my exact posts about it. Do you have copies? If so, I might be able to further elaborate, if anybody is interested.
 
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Was in a thread that I replied to, about the Algerian war and a magazine called, Historia. Still have the copy of it (if you want,i can ship it to you). Mostly testimonies from conscripts and how they won the putsch. Written by pacifists.
 
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“Super-Hercules” was ordered because of long delays in A400M production. Will expand later in Op Barkhane thread or the European army one (interesting facts..but needs time to absorb)

I think the "J" has no specific meaning. It's like a version number of the 60+ year-old C-130 “Hercules” plane. The previous version of the C-130 was labeled H, if I'm not mistaken. Current issues with the A400M and an aging fleet of C-160 “Transall”, led the Air Force to the decision of purchasing some “Super-Hercules” as the C130-J is sometimes called.
Yes, Hercules is made by Lockheed (US) and the Transall was a Franco-German cooperation.
C = Cargo
 
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Serious question here and only paras can answer. What is the difference jumping from a 130 or a 160?
Recent deployment by REP in Barkhane was by the arse of an A400M (tail gate). Reason given : lateral side doors not functional (flaps, hydrologique, wind stoppers lack of technique vocalubaire) wasn't and still is not Ops ?
RAF reduces its intial command for A400M ( Brexit negotiations?)
Spain to swap 4 A400M for a certain amount of jet training craft with South Korea.
 

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Never jumped from a C-130 Hercules, so can't tell the difference vs. the C-160 Transall (except of course that the former has four engines and the latter only two, but this is common knowledge). What I've heard from people currently serving in my ex regiment is that you can't execute a static line jump from the A400M through both lateral doors at the same time. Because of some aerodynamics issue, two paras jumping from each door could collide under the fuselage. Jumping through one door only is possible, but of course, this reduces the 'thoughput'. Not sure if this problem has eventually been cleared or not. Repmen dropped recently in Mali were GCPs, so for them jumping through the rear ramp is common practice.
For some reason I don't know, we don't do static line jumps from the rear ramp in France, while it's done in some other armies.
 
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Two door flaps reduces aerodynamics? There is no up date on this issue (secret défense and/or industrial). In the meantime A400M going thru final URW tests in Mali, Gao and Niger (URW = unpaved runway). Has passed tests on grass done in the Normandy / Manche area, where they had already done landing test on sand (september/october).
Barkhane : Première mission tactique pour l' A400M au Sahel
Excellent pics and shows why landing on a beach is nothing compared to a stoney, rocky, gravel environnement. Nonetheless, still remains a maxi cargo carrier.
 

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Two door flaps reduces aerodynamics? (...)
I don't know the details, but apparently there are some sort of turbulences (due to the lateral doors being both opened, I don't know) that may cause two paras jumping from each door at the same time to collide.
Below the links you mentioned on the Defens'Aero blog and MoD website:
A440M tests on rough terrain
First operational mission for the A400M in Sahel (photos are under the “Multimedia” section on the right-hand side of the page.
 

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Hi mark...I'm back. Some of us Anciens have to make the effort and give this forum a good kick along!
That’s what I want to hear! More greens need to get involved otherwise this forum will be on a downhill trend. Recently it’s been almost surreal reading some of the posts here! God knows Joseph tries his best to keep things going. And kudos to Rapace for keeping law and order! But it’s also up to us anciens / greens to step up once in a while to keep things going! I will make an effort to be on more to support you lads. Le Petit Caporal I have comments to make on the Hercules/ C-160 but simply don’t have time now. Good to have you back Ossie. And yes Joseph I have a donation to make! Will log in over the week end. Cheers all!
 
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I have jumped from both Hercs and Transall. One of the major differences is the noise factor. As for the extra turbulence because of the 4 engine vs 2, yes, it is noticed to a certain degree. As for two jumpers hitting each other from opposite doors, you are more worried about getting too close, and both chutes start "sucking air" on the way down. Just on the noise factor, my ears are still ringing from the Nordatlas we jumped from in Rwanda. Here is an old photo from Calvi DZ (Transall).

Calvi DZ, the tower next to 1ere company. Note the gaines/sac ops hanging
 

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I never got the chance to jump from the Noratlas, but I remember that there was a mockup of it for training purposes. that was until the pilots flew the Transall onto the mountain.
Quick explanation: every two weeks or so a plane comes into Calvi for jump training. One day when the plane was flying back to the continent it mistook or miscalculated the height of a mountain and at the last minute pulled up, but not enough and crashed up the side of a mountain. As far as I can remember there were no fatalities. The regiment brought down the fuselage and 'rebuilt' it. Not only was this to the promos advantage, but also to the 6611 course (qualification allowing NCOs to perform on the ground inspection (inspection au sol) before a jump. And of course training the future monitors before sending them to the continent (Pau).
While on the subject of Transalls and Hercs, the French also bought Casa which are Spanish. They are like a compact version of the two - Mind you head when leaving your seat, the plane. :cool:
 

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