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Just in case anyone does not know how to wash their hands, here is a vid with the Indian Police showing how it's done:


Pathetic :cry: :sneaky:
This is Kerala state police. How embarrassing! This is psychological BS aimed to bring down the negative opinion of the corrupt Indian cops and strangely enough it seems to work!
 

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Dusa, this type of of interrogation is why I put on a nasal accent and pretend to be Québécois when I'm in Europe/around Europeans*. Because when you're a fake canadien, they only ask you about poutine and if it really snows that much. When you're American, you better have a doctorate in poli sci. Tabernak.

To answer your battery of questions-- Dude. I don't fuggin know, I just live here.

Did I asked you battery of questions? I think I did not. Only what measures are taken against corona in your region. (apart of advice for social distancing, which don't work) Major sport leagues are canceld and some bars and cafes don't work.(or all of them?). All big gatherings of more than 10 (or even 5) persons should be banned. Etc. etc


Don't remember asking you questions. Just reacted on your last post where you in all 3 possible scenarios concerted on economy. Many Americans do same including President. He hope to open country until Easter... How can he even say that? When is obvious that things would just start to be bad at that time.

That is possible only if he somehow magically have vaccine somewhere. Or if he open country dissipate huge losses of lives and he can't do that because that would mean he loses elections for sure.
This is no time to think about elections. I don't know why politicians in US still behave like electrons would hepantd by schedule. Why they even think about that at this moment (they do that in other coutries to). This is time for coutry to be united and fight war.


Maybe I'm sound like I'm only criticizing Yanks and instead I should watch what happens in my country. I'm doing that because i'm understand in what direction this is going for US. my country also not doing enough, but still doing much more than US.
Also I'm doing that because you guys have time (most of regions) do do something pro active and I'm not see that.
I don't know ... maybe i'm too vocal about it and i should be quiet, but I can't. Be well and take care yourself. All you Americans here. Others too, but they would need to do that most.

Also, guys Im not predicted here some bad scenario for US because I dont like them. I just understand where this is going for them if something drastically doesn't change soon.
 
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(...) 1) Come November, the economy has cratered to the point the American populace has lost all confidence in Trump, and Biden wins in a landslide. Call this the “Black Swan” scenario. (...)
And how would you call a scenario where Bernie finally wins the Democratic Party primaries and is elected..? :D
(...) 2) The economy doesn't tank, but we're still in the midst of a crisis. In this case, the American public has a choice between a guy who is perceived as a strong leader, or tottering, senile, Creepy Uncle Joe. (...)
Well, Biden is not much older than Trump, is he ? Now, for people in their 70s, I agree that years are twofold.
(...) People have a tendency to follow Alpha Male types while in the midst of an existential panic; it's why people follow dictators and why women tend to fall for douchebags. Fear is by far the strongest human emotion.
100% agree. That's how Dubya, after being narrowly elected in 2000 and despite his blatant lies re the WMDs in Iraq, finally got easily re-elected in 2004, in the midst of the “war against terrorism”.
(...) when you're a fake Canadian, they only ask you about poutine and if it really snows that much. When you're American, you better have a doctorate in poli sci. Tabernak. (...)
Since our friend from Québec, Fish Sauce, is no longer around, may be you should explain what poutine is (some people may wonder what Vladimir Vladimirovitch has to do in the discussion) and what “tabernak” means...
(...) * The French are the exception. Around them, I find that I can be my honest self. Maybe because they expect me to be a bit of a savage. I'm not sure why. (...)
No, that's just because we are very nice and open-minded people. :)
 

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(...) Are you (your politicians, but ordinary folks too) aware that tomorrow (literally tomorrow at this time) you would have more cases than China and you are only at beginning of the pandemics. (...)
Well... If I'm not mistaken, the USA have already broken the world record of the number CoViD-19 cases. They're now competing to take the world record of the number of dead from Italy...
 

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Yes, but we have true reporting unlike the Chinese that let loose this virus and hid their numbers because of their communist way. China brought on the World Pandemic plain and simple.

Trump wins hands down over dementia ridden Crazy Uncle Joe Biden
 

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Yes, but we have true reporting unlike the Chinese that let loose this virus and hid their numbers because of their communist way. China brought on the World Pandemic plain and simple.
Yes, true, and..? I'm afraid that finger pointing won't be of much help in the current circumstances...

For the Legion candidates, please be informed that the French authorities have just decided to extend the lockdown period until 15 April. Needless to say this is not precluding another possible extension beyond that date. So, again... Be wise, stay home, and wash your hands... :)
 

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And how would you call a scenario where Bernie finally wins the Democratic Party primaries and is elected..? :D

Well, Biden is not much older than Trump, is he ? Now, for people in their 70s, I agree that years are twofold.

100% agree. That's how Dubya, after being narrowly elected in 2000 and despite his blatant lies re the WMDs in Iraq, finally got easily re-elected in 2004, in the midst of the “war against terrorism”.

Since our friend from Québec, Fish Sauce, is no longer around, may be you should explain what poutine is (some people may wonder what Vladimir Vladimirovitch has to do in the discussion) and what “tabernak” means... :)

No, that's just because we are very nice and open-minded people.:D
Bernie could win the Democratic Primary if millennial voters remain democratic socialists when they become the majority of the electorate 30 years from now. Of course, Bernie would then be 108 years old. That's not the black swan scenario, it's the “hens have teeth” or “hell froze over” scenario.

True, Biden is only 5 years older. People age differently, though. Take Sophia Loren, for instance; she was still kinda hot in '95, and she was 60 by then. Very few women can say that. More to the point, my own Great Grandfather was still plowing his fields when he was 90, while other people in my family were nearly bedridden by that age. I'm not calling Biden senile, merely pointing out that he isn't perceived as being as strong a leader as Trump.

Re: Dubya-- That, and the fact that his opponent in '04, despite being a legit war hero, had all the personality of a wet dishrag and was perceived as being wishy-washy (sans consistance), I voted for the war before I voted against it). Then there was that whole throwing away his medals fiasco, which I think has been discussed before here on Cervens.

Poutine is a Québécois dish made from French fries/chips/pommes frites, brown gravy, cheese curds, and sometimes meat. It's not bad.

"Tabernak" is a Québécois swear word. Comes from the French tabernacle. In fact, many of their swear words come from religious terms (calice = "chalice" , the holy grail; ostie "Host", as in the communion host, the little crackers & grape juice you get at church). The Canadiens are the only people in the francosphere who do that, too; down here, our curse words are all very much the same as in France (although putain and bordel aren't used quite as much, and we've adapted some bits and bobs from Choctaw and other native languages. Caouane, for instance, is either "turtle", or slang for vagina depending on which parish you're in).

As for the last bit; tous sauf pour les Parisiens, je suis d'accord. Open-minded, sure, but nice the Parisians ain't, unless you get in good with them. But then, I've met some Vendéennes who were relentlessly polite--- any little thing you did for them, they said thank you. Almost to the point where one wondered if they were locked in a damned convent all their lives prior to coming here on an exchange program.
 

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Well... If I'm not mistaken, the USA have already broken the world record of the number CoViD-19 cases. They're now competing to take the world record of the number of dead from Italy...
At the time I posted that message, the USA were 3rd or 4th with number of cases. And I predicted well (+ - 2h) when they would pass over China. Also I predicted dark fate for US weak or 2 before this. It's clear to me that they would unfortunately break most of bad corona records. Including those where percentage is taken in consideration.

Bernie could win the Democratic Primary if millennial voters remain democratic socialists when they become the majority of the electorate 30 years from now. Of course, Bernie would then be 108 years old. That's not the black swan scenario, it's the “hens have teeth” or “hell froze over” scenario.
If I was an American voter in 2016 I would vote Bernie. Still even then he was looking somehow too old to be president. I just can't see him now as leader of most powerful country in the world. Also his social policy is not understood by most of poor (majority) of America. So, no he doesn't have chance.

BTW why I let you drag me to do this. :) I'm telling here that elections are not thing to be worried about. Now there is much more serious problem for every country and especially USA.

Crawdad, USMCRET, do you really think your country would have elections this year?

Yes, but we have true reporting unlike the Chinese that let loose this virus and hid their numbers because of their communist way. China brought on the World Pandemic plain and simple.
I would agree with you on this. China is using this situation to strengthen their influence and image all over the world. It is almost certain that the numbers they gave are not totally correct. But also they can't bluntly lie if pandemic is ravaging through China and there is death everywhere. Not in this day and age. They have made significant progress in fighting coronavirus, that is for sure. (we can discus why is that).

When Trump and other American politicians call this "Wuhan virus" everyone attack them because that is supposedly racist. By doing that they missing big point of that statement. Listen this :

In Wuhan there are 2 virology labs. One of them is just 200 m from the now infamous animal market! I just read scientific work from 2015 where they talking about manipulating SARS from bats in order to infect lab mice so it can be researched.

I'm convinced that nobody made covid-19 as bio-weapon or that someone intentionally let it out of lab.They probably worked on vaccine for SARS-1. But shit happens. Maybe escaped, Maybe mutated after escaping. I don't know, I'm not an expert and even they can't be sure at this moment. We know that virus mutated from bats to human through some still unknown mammal. If science proves that mammal was mouse or rat ... It would be interesting.

But that is not important at this moment !!!
 

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Dusa, I agree that the present epidemic is a more serious problem than the either political or even economic ramifications thereof. But, this thread is/was a discussion of the effects of COVID-19 on the Legion's recruitment. And then someone (Rapace, I think) wanted to discuss the politics of the matter and I thought, hey, that's an interesting take on the subject, I'mma chip in. And so here we are.

I mean, we could all sit around in here and shout "DISEASE BAD, PEOPLE GON DIE", but the conversation would go stale. So why not poke around a bit, and look at all the ways this thing is affecting or, might affect, different facets of our lives. After all, a serious discussion about the effects of WW2 wouldn't just be "well, beaucoup people died, the end"-- even though the monumental loss of life is/was of course the most significant effect.

As to your query-- yes, there will be an election, or there will be hell to pay. Gotta remember, we've never canceled an election. Not in 1812, when we at war with Britain. Not even in 1864, with half the country in open rebellion. Trump couldn't if he wanted to; even if he declared martial law. Only Congress has the power to change the date of an election, and there's no way Congressmen of either party would vote to do that. It might not cause a civil war, but we'd see civil unrest worse than anything since the 60's and 70's. You see, we've got this crazy idea that government ought only be allowed to rule with the consent of the governed. And cancelling an election would pretty much be continuing to govern without our consent, methinks.
 
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I had planned to join before I reach 29 in May because I wanna give my best years to the Legion but this virus is causing a lot of damage and panic, me personally I'm afraid for my parent's life so I try to do my best to not get infected because I do the shopping for my dad his at the high risk group. The best thing about this virus is that it gives me more time to learn French and more time training more naturally outside me personally I run more often at the beach I have more time for calisthenics and I feel great overall
I don't work until the quarantine is over, so I give my all to the Legion selection purpose. I hope that the situation in France gets better soon and all around the globe but let's be realistic we not gonna be able to join until August. So stay positive wannabes like me and use this time wisely.
 
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LDLD, are you planning on going as soon as it opens back up or are you more just playing it by ear? What methods of learning French are you using? Are you using a program, books, or other methods?
 

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At the time I posted that message, the USA were 3rd or 4th with number of cases. And I predicted well (+ - 2h) when they would pass over China. Also I predicted dark fate for US weak or 2 before this. It's clear to me that they would unfortunately break most of bad corona records. Including those where percentage is taken in consideration.

If I was an American voter in 2016 I would vote Bernie. Still even then he was looking somehow too old to be president. I just can't see him now as leader of most powerful country in the world. Also his social policy is not understood by most of poor (majority) of America. So, no he doesn't have chance.

BTW why I let you drag me to do this. :) I'm telling here that elections are not thing to be worried about. Now there is much more serious problem for every country and especially USA.

Crawdad, USMCRET, do you really think your country would have elections this year?

I would agree with you on this. China is using this situation to strengthen their influence and image all over the world. It is almost certain that the numbers they gave are not totally correct. But also they can't bluntly lie if pandemic is ravaging through China and there is death everywhere. Not in this day and age. They have made significant progress in fighting coronavirus, that is for sure. (we can discus why is that).

When Trump and other American politicians call this "Wuhan virus" everyone attack them because that is supposedly racist. By doing that they missing big point of that statement. Listen this :

In Wuhan there are 2 virology labs. One of them is just 200 m from the now infamous animal market! I just read scientific work from 2015 where they talking about manipulating SARS from bats in order to infect lab mice so it can be researched.

I'm convinced that nobody made covid-19 as bio-weapon or that someone intentionally let it out of lab.They probably worked on vaccine for SARS-1. But shit happens. Maybe escaped, Maybe mutated after escaping. I don't know, I'm not an expert and even they can't be sure at this moment. We know that virus mutated from bats to human through some still unknown mammal. If science proves that mammal was mouse or rat ... It would be interesting.

But that is not important at this moment !!!

Yes, we will have elections, it's just that the Democrats know they have a loser in Joe Biden, the man seriously has Dementia. No matter how bad the media try to essentially Impeach the President on all of this, he is stronger and he has handled the situation very well. Unfortunately, in my state and home New Orleans, we are being hit hard. New Orleans has the Highest per capita death rate in all of the US. A large portion of New Orleans population have diabetes and it is proving to be a killer. Everyday the numbers skyrocket, mainly due to the test results coming back about a week to 10 days after testing, so, there are a lot of positive results out there that have not hit yet.
 
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Hi Tom there are whole threads devoted to learning French. It's not a rebuke, just letting you know. Check out the Irish Hermit's posts
Right on, will do. I have a program on laptop and phone app but have not been being discipline in study...I need to.
 

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Dusa, I agree that the present epidemic is a more serious problem than the either political or even economic ramifications thereof. But, this thread is/was a discussion of the effects of COVID-19 on the Legion's recruitment. And then someone (Rapace, I think) wanted to discuss the politics of the matter and I thought, hey, that's an interesting take on the subject, I'mma chip in. And so here we are.

When we started first (locked) thread on this subject it was totally different situation. Nobody knew that this would go this far. Even I was thinking that this is just little bit stronger flu. and media spreading panic, only old dies,. Who cares. It would be fine.
Thing is, many Americans think in that way even today. And they would change their opinion. Believe me. Same as I did.

Yes, subject was "effect of corona on legion recruitment". And that is pretty much finished. Until borders and gates get opened again we can only talk on what effects will this have when regrutment start again. Until then, I think it's important to talk on corona overall. Everything else should be put aside at this moment.
As I said, you (and many of your countryman) don't take this serious enough. I can see that from your posts. And that is partially why I'm so vocal about it. Also I know you would change opinion once virus came close to you.

I mean, we could all sit around in here and shout "DISEASE BAD, PEOPLE GON DIE", but the conversation would go stale. So why not poke around a bit, and look at all the ways this thing is affecting or, might affect, different facets of our lives. After all, a serious discussion about the effects of WW2 wouldn't just be "well, beaucoup people died, the end"-- even though the monumental loss of life is/was of course the most significant effect.

Yeah, but this is different. In this case we CAN change something. I'm not shout "DISEASE BAD, PEOPLE GON DIE", I'm shout "DO SOMETHING, SO LESS PEOPLE GON DIE",
OK I admit I'm little bit too obsessed with all this corona thing. Especially it effect on USA.

As to your query-- yes, there will be an election, or there will be hell to pay. Gotta remember, we've never canceled an election. Not in 1812, when we at war with Britain. Not even in 1864, with half the country in open rebellion. Trump couldn't if he wanted to; even if he declared martial law. Only Congress has the power to change the date of an election, and there's no way Congressmen of either party would vote to do that. It might not cause a civil war, but we'd see civil unrest worse than anything since the 60's and 70's. You see, we've got this crazy idea that government ought only be allowed to rule with the consent of the governed. And cancelling an election would pretty much be continuing to govern without our consent, methinks.
Crawdad, Can we bet on pack of beer that elections would NOT be on schedule?
 

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Yes, we will have elections, it's just that the Democrats know they have a loser in Joe Biden, the man seriously has Dementia. No matter how bad the media try to essentially Impeach the President on all of this, he is stronger and he has handled the situation very well. Unfortunately, in my state and home New Orleans, we are being hit hard. New Orleans has the Highest per capita death rate in all of the US. A large portion of New Orleans population have diabetes and it is proving to be a killer. Everyday the numbers skyrocket, mainly due to the test results coming back about a week to 10 days after testing, so, there are a lot of positive results out there that have not hit yet.
Like, for part of post other than "Yes, we will have elections". I don't care hove some like or hate Trump. (I would vote him, over Hillary). Things he is saying now are crazy. So, if elections somehow happen. This corona shit It's not good for Trump.
If he sacrifice lives and save economy (more or less). He is doomed. If he sacrifice economy and save lives (more or less). Doomed again. Not good to be Trump in this time. For now he is deploying blame and responsibility on states and regions but he can't do that for long time. Unless virus magically stops or vaccine magically appears it's not good for his political carrier.

By the way who cares about him now? Dirty rich billionaire same as top democrats. You drag me into this You should care about yourself and your loved ones not about Trump, democrats and elections! I mean, u see what happens in your state USMCRET, and its just started.

But who am I, just guy talking from his ass on internet. Listen your president. Everything would be fine until Easter! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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Like, for part of post other than "Yes, we will have elections". I don't care hove some like or hate Trump. (I would vote him, over Hillary). Things he is saying now are crazy. So, if elections somehow happen. This corona shit It's not good for Trump.
If he sacrifice lives and save economy (more or less). He is doomed. If he sacrifice economy and save lives (more or less). Doomed again. Not good to be Trump in this time. For now he is deploying blame and responsibility on states and regions but he can't do that for long time. Unless virus magically stops or vaccine magically appears it's not good for his political carrier.

By the way who cares about him now? Dirty rich billionaire same as top democrats. You drag me into this You should care about yourself and your loved ones not about Trump, democrats and elections! I mean, u see what happens in your state USMCRET, and its just started.

But who am I, just guy talking from his ass on internet. Listen your president. Everything would be fine until Easter! :mad: :mad: :mad:

My friend you're wrong. Trump's popularity has soared. People see what he is doing and the US has had an awakening to the media. I am sad to report that in New Orleans, our infected jumped to over 3,300 cases and 137 dead and almost 800 in the hospital, about 400 of those are on ventilators.

I hope all of you my friends are safe out there, I am thinking of our old Friend Chas and I pray that old hard ass Commando is safe and sound. Has anyone heard from Chas? New Orleans has the lion share of the virus. N.O. is about 350,000, the entire metropolitan area surrounding is a million plus. but for a small to medium city we are hit hard. Maybe Saint Joan of Arc, she has a Gold Gilded Statute in New Orleans is watching over and fighting for us too. 3,300/350,000 = 0.009% of our population have it and this is only the tested. Many thousands more are not tested. My wife is sick for the last week, only her fever has not gotten above 100.4 so she would not even be a candidate for testing here.

I have hope for Easter. Dusaboss, my friend, a leader's job is to give hope in the face of adversity, when things are at their lowest a leader emerges, our President, he has done that. Believe me, he is doing a fantastic job with this, it is defining him. There is shit out there he told governors in the states they are on their own but that was a taken out of context and formulated attack by the media here. The truth is this, he has a conference call daily and more with all 50 governors, he has responded to their request and he told all of the governors to pursue any route you can for ventilators, it may be faster. Go to the point of sale, time is critical.

The Governor of Michigan is a horrible woman and she will cause death in her state. The governor DID NOT ASK FOR A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, SHE REFUSES TO, SHE IS IGNORANT, AND SHE WILL NOT GIVE THE PRESIDENT ONE OUNCE OF CREDIT FOR WHAT HE IS DOING.

She made her state government threaten Doctors and Pharmacist to not prescribe HydroxyChloroguin out of spite for the president. She is willing to gamble with other's lives because of politics. A Dr. in France has given 100s the drugs and the vast majority have turned the corner and are surviving.

Stay safe all of you
 

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My friend you're wrong. Trump's popularity has soared. People see what he is doing and the US has had an awakening to the media. I am sad to report that in New Orleans, our infected jumped to over 3,300 cases and 137 dead and almost 800 in the hospital, about 400 of those are on ventilators.


I hope all of you my friends are safe out there, I am thinking of our old Friend Chas and I pray that old hard ass Commando is safe and sound. Has anyone heard from Chas? New Orleans has the lion share of the virus. N.O. is about 350,000, the entire metropolitan area surrounding is a million plus. but for a small to medium city we are hit hard. Maybe Saint Joan of Arc, she has a Gold Gilded Statute in New Orleans is watching over and fighting for us too. 3,300/350,000 = 0.009% of our population have it and this is only the tested. Many thousands more are not tested. My wife is sick for the last week, only her fever has not gotten above 100.4 so she would not even be a candidate for testing here.
It would be much worse. What lockdown measures are currently taken?

I have hope for Easter. Dusaboss, my friend, a leader's job is to give hope in the face of adversity, when things are at their lowest a leader emerges, our President, he has done that. Believe me, he is doing a fantastic job with this, it is defining him. There is shit out there he told governors in the states they are on their own but that was a taken out of context and formulated attack by the media here. The truth is this, he has a conference call daily and more with all 50 governors, he has responded to their request and he told all of the governors to pursue any route you can for ventilators, it may be faster. Go to the point of sale, time is critical.

Hopes are one a realistic predictions in this case looks completely different. You would just start getting serious troubles around Easter. How he can say that country would be good to go? He know that isn't possible, you know that (I hope you do) and I know that. If he said 4 july that still not realistic but I would understand that.
I understand that he need to put some optimism in people, but that statement was just blunt lying of nation. Also it looks that he care only about economy.

Other then that I believe he is doing bast he can't to help America. This is definitely not Trump's fault and that is not much he can do about it. It's more whole American system which was great in normal situations, but it would fail greatly in this one. Not American people. not even politician or multinational companies in this case. Its just way system is organized.

Maybe i'm wrong. I hope I am. New York is highly dense and it fate may not mirror on other big cities.
 
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USMCRET.

Thank you for your kind thoughts. Loving the peace and quiet. As a geriatric I am still doing RM phyzz in the morning. Still fit as a fiddle and hoping that all forum members stay safe.

On a personal aside I have in place a signed 'Do not resuscitate form' witnessed by my local surgery in the event of being hospitalised for any reason whatsoever including the current dreaded lurgi. I feel lucky to have had such a fascinating and full life. My ventilator should be given to someone with a full life to lead.
 
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