G.C.P. (Groupement des Commandos Parachutistes) selection and training

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I'm curious on what is the selection and training for the GCP? As they are in the second circle, I assume it's not as rigorous as the 1er RPIMa or Commando Hubert.
 

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I'm curious on what is the selection and training for the GCP? As they are in the second circle, I assume its not as rigorous as the 1er RPIMa or Commando Hurbert.
I do not remember who posted this for my web site:
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There's one G.C.P. team (about 20 members) in each regiment of the 11th Airborne Brigade (whether Legion or not). These teams can operate as standalone units or jointly altogether. G.C.P. are part of the COS (Commandement des Opérations Spéciales) and are commanded by a Lt-Col, member of the 11th ABB HQ. Each single team is commanded by a Lt or Capt. All their members have the minimum rank of Caporal-Chef and are qualified for HALO/HAHO jumps (they hold a special para patch, called "Brevet de Chuteur Opérationnel").
 

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Just a little update the 2 REP has a member in the GCP who is Caporal, i will try and get some more information on the training and tests.

Edit: I remember that one of the tests were you do a 8km TAP (with 10kg sac, famas, helmet), after that you do hand to hand combat for 5 mins, after that you need to do P.O (Obstacle course) in a certain time.
 
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I'm curious on what is the selection and training for the GCP? As they are in the second circle, I assume it's not as rigorous as the 1er RPIMa or Commando Hubert.
GCP selection takes place in each airborne regiment having a GCP team. And yes, you're right, they belong to what is called le deuxième cercle of the Special Forces. Their missions are more tactic than strategic. They will first and foremost work for the regiment they belong to (pathfinder missions, recce, etc.) but can also serve in a support role if need be to the primary Spec Ops units (1er RPIMa, as you said, or CPA10, CPA20, etc.).

P.S : Nemuksis, I'm happy to see you got your name in green... At last !
 

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I didn't want to start a different post regarding GCP/DGSE questions so I'll ask them here.

Is it possible following a 15 year career in the Legion to join the DGSE as a paramilitary officer? I would assume that being a former GCP Repman would aid selection. As a legionnaire who's earned his citizenship are you eligible for a French security clearance?

I know on the American side a lot of SOF/SF guys end up going CIA SAD and love it. Those guys tend to be the crème de la crème. Does the GCP team deploy more consistently to hot spots then the regular regiment?

Lastly, the GCP isn't a tier 1 unit, but I assume their equivalent (based off man power) would be Army Special Forces or MARSOC. Do they run foreign internal defense, unconventional warfare, and direct action missions?

I've researched all I can and on the various English speaking websites the information tends to be fairly vague. Which, them being a special operations unit, I appreciate. :).
 

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Previously posted by another member:
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Function of C.R.A.P. (Now called G.C.P.)

Be aware that the acronym C.R.A.P. (which used to stand for Commandos de Recherche et d'Action dans la Profondeur) is no longer in use since a couple of years now and has been replaced by G.C.P. (Groupement de Commandos Parachutistes).

There's one G.C.P. team (about 20 members) in each regiment of the 11th Airborne Brigade (whether Legion or not). These teams can operate as standalone units or jointly altogether. G.C.P. are part of the COS (Commandement des Opérations Spéciales) and are commanded by a Lt-Col, member of the 11th ABB HQ. Each single team is commanded by a Lt or Capt. All their members have the minimum rank of Caporal-Chef and are qualified for HALO/HAHO jumps (they hold a special para patch, called "Brevet de Chuteur Opérationnel").
 

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What is GCP and how do i get into it?
You have to first get into the French Foreign Legion, do well in basic instruction, choose the 2° REP and do well when you get there. After all that, then maybe (just maybe) after a few years of service, you'll have a chance to apply for GCP selection (and they don't take everyone who applies).

Good luck.
 

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A reportage about G.C.P.:

[video=youtube;A_1bANyC17E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1bANyC17E[/video]
 

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Another one:

[video=youtube;DRpYH_A5rW4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRpYH_A5rW4[/video]

If you care there are plenty of videos about that too.
 

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Il y'a pas mal des gens ici qui etaient en Corse. Peut-etre je n'ai pas vu une affichage mais est-ce qu'il y'a quelqu'un ici qui etait un chuteur (dans le CRAPS)? Quand Wabinski etait chef d'intel, il m'a pris a cote quand j'ai eu moins de 6 mois restant dans mon contrat et m'a dites qu'il a mit mon nom pour cet equipe. Alors, j'ai manque quelque chose et je n'etais pas choisi. (J'etais en taule un ou deux fois en Guyane et cela pourrait etre la raison.) Ma question est diriger vers ceux qui ont etaient dans cet cadre, s'ils ont restaient plus longtemps dans la legion a cause de cet entrainement.
Je vous en prie d'excuser mon francais.
 
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Your French is more than acceptable Jwaltos, but I'm afraid only a few members will be able to understand what you wrote... Why not repost in English ?
 

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Thank you Rapace, point taken.
Basically, if there is anyone in this forum who was in CRAPS or GCP I'd like to know if the specialized training made them decide to stay in the Legion longer than they would have otherwise.

Cheers,
jw
 

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...How long will it take before I can try for selection for the GCP...
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Basically until the Web master can fix the hiccup with the 'weak password' issue, if any one who has been trying to join the forum and has a question he can send it to my makeshift email address and I will poste it for them on the forum. I have to warn you that I will only check it once, perhaps twice a day.
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I thought I'd post this in the correct thread. I won't go through the usual routine of telling you that first of all you have to get in etc. And that in Aubagne everyone goes through the (a phrase coined by Ossie O.) REP fever phase. I'll finish this off later, unless of course someone else would like to.
 

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OK AP, I'm back and I see that no-one has taken over the subject.
Basically you have :

In order to serve in the GCP the candidate must meet the following requirements-

  • To be the rank of corporal or higher in the French Armed Forces
  • Must pass 11th Parachute Brigade / Commando Parachute Group selection
  • To be medically fit for parachute jump and thus acquiring the following qualifications: TAP et Chuteurs Opérationnels.
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S I G Y C O P (Chuteurs Opérationnels)

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  • To be adept whilst out in the field minimum 4 month plus deployment ( More than 4 month on OPEX).
  • To have security clearance type classification (SD)
  • To pass Pre-Selection, which consists of:
    • 2 rope climbs carrying full opex gear and arms
    • A swim in combat fatigues that includes underwater tests and 5 meter rope climb from the water; depending on mother regiment this may be in rough winter seas.
    • An obstacle course to be completed under a set time.
    • An orientation/navigation test to be completed under a set time.
    • A 30 km TAP in full fighting order to be completed under a set time with record held by CCH Graham Pelham of 2e REP GCP in 2hrs 28 min, 1994.*
    • 1500m and 8000m runs in full opex gear and arms, to be completed under set times.
    • Unarmed combat skills and aggression tests including 'milling' a type of no rules boxing.
    • An interview and general skills testing with current serving members of the GCP
  • To pass the physically and mentally demanding Brevet Niveaux 1 et 2 du Centre National d'Entraînement Commando (The National Commando Training Centre) (CNEC) at Mont-Louis
    • Brevet Niveau 1 : « Commando Entrainement »
    • Brevet Niveau 2 : « Moniteur des Techniques Commandos » for senior NCOs and officers or « Moniteur des Techniques Commandos Spécialisés » for junior NCOs
    • Brevet Niveau 3 : « Instructeur des Techniques Commandos »
  • To pass the 'Chuteur Opérationnel' de l'ETAP course (stage 55 501 SOGH) that lasts three months.
Upon completion of program, candidate is integrated in GCP Teams.

* I always thought that he was a Brit and mentioned him on a "Quora" post. He replied that he was (his own words) not a Brit but a Rhodesian.

Anyway AP, I hope that that answers your question.
 

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Wow, 30 KM TAP in 2 hours 28 minutes.
I thought I had done fairly good in basic training with 12 KM in one hour seven minutes.
There where three ahead of me with 1 hour 5 minutes.
It was the last test of basic instruction and we wore those hobnail boots, rifle, steel helmet and a musette packed with some junk for weight.
Thus not nearly as much gear as for the GCP guys.
 

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Even still Volt:) well done !
For those who do not realise what a 8 Km involves:
To begin with you do 1.5 Kms in less than 9 minutes - I don't know why, if you can't do that then I don't know what you are doing in the legion. A warm-up perhaps? The REP does away with it.
You then run for 8 kms in full battle gear with 14 (?) kilograms in your back pack. I put a question mark, because a forum member queried if it was 14 or 11. It could well be 11 kg.
However, in order to run 30 Kms , whether with 11 or 14 Kms in under 2 hours and 30 minutes, a record which stands today so I have heard, well done! And for him being a REPman and an Anglophone, well done on those also.
 

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