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Is there any similar experience to that in your country?

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Srbski imposés war on (US)...fact

Ooh did we? How? Did we threaten their national security? Oh they are good Samaritan going around the world helping oppressed minorities. Ye, ye :) Why they don't help people in Yemen?

And first you have to make distinguishes. We (Srbski as you say) or not same as Slobodan Mlošević. We showed how much love him at 5 October 2000, Also Bosnian Serbs are not same as Serbs from Serbia.

Do you think people here supported sage of Sarajevo? (I guess that event made you to hate Serbs). People here didn't know that civilian areas were targeted (BTW aries with Serbia population to). Ratko Mladić
shouldn't be head of Amy in any scenery His mother was killed by Ustaše in WW2. His daughter did suicide during war. He was by no means capable of commanding even as a corporal not as head of army for god sake. But someone for some reasons put him there.

Also Western, Bosnian and Croatian (who want by all means to involve NATO on their side) propaganda at the time was that Serbs shooting only on civilians. Of course there was huge collateral damage which should be allowed, but Croats and Muslim had armies too.
If you listen some reports from that time on would say that Serbs come to country which isn't their (Croatia and Bosnia) and started to killing unarmed civilian population.Anyone knowing anything about that (or any other) conflict know that is total BS.

So please Andy, stop hating me. I'm not a Četnik, I'm Serbian nationalist, and I never supported Slobodan Milošević
 

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I do not hate you or Serbes. You are the only one on this forum i like to argue with
It's not the same thing
 

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At least we have more or less free country. How much is Scotland under English rule? 400 years? OK that's it union not occupation. :) Paaat! It's forbidden to spoke in that manner in world ruled by US-England.
Maybe is some conspiracy in my crazy head, but look I again having dispute with Google translate. Look: :)
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Ewan Mcgregor described really nicely here. :)



Similar Union Milišević wanted to make out of ex-Yu. Union in which everybody would be equal, but Serbs would be bit more equal then others with him as undisputed ruler (new TITO). Us you saw first hand, other had little disagreements with that idea (who can guess that? :))

I did two years of basic training with a bunch of jocks. I was 16 and 6 months old, because of 6 months of probation. The jocks had all turned 16. In Scotland the leaving school age then, was 15 and a half. There was a Welshman, nicknamed Taff, would you believe and a Englishman? not sure, but his father was Jamaican serving in the Brit army and a sergeant.
 

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I did two years of basic training with a bunch of jocks. I was 16 and 6 months old, because of 6 months of probation. The jocks had all turned 16. In Scotland the leaving school age then, was 15 and a half. There was a Welshman, nicknamed Taff, would you believe and a Englishman? not sure, but his father was Jamaican serving in the Brit army and a sergeant.

F me if I understood word you said. :) Is some footnote possible?
 

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I do not hate you or Serbes. You are the only one on this forum i like to argue with
It's not the same thing
Hmm, maybe, but in process you are touching some subjects which are very sensitive to Serbs ( or Yugos overall)

I don't have nothing against if you just want to have a fun, or if you just want to provoke me. But my impression is that you really have some aversion towards Serbs. Prove me wrong, or don't. You probably doesn't give a fuck anyway.
 

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Hi Dusa,

In the late 1970s I lived in Venice, and I some times had a glass of champagne in a bar overlooking the Grand Canal with ex Queen Alexandria of Yugoslavia. Just the two of us. She was a lovely woman. Do you know about her? I have done a bit of research on her since then. She had an interesting life.
 

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Hi Dusa,

In the late 1970s I lived in Venice, and I some times had a glass of champagne in a bar overlooking the Grand Canal with ex Queen Alexandria of Yugoslavia. Just the two of us. She was a lovely woman. Do you know about her? I have done a bit of research on her since then. She had an interesting life.

No unfortunately I don't l know much about her, but I know that she was a widow at the time. Did you ....??? ... You nasty old :)
Just, kidding. Or am I Jonny? :) She was in her 60s at the time, but she was good looking woman and its a queen!

I know something ( a lot) about Serbian (Yugoslavian) dynasty she was married in. Most interesting data for this board would be that grandfather of her husband did served legion.
I guess you two did come upon that subject. Did you Jonny? (That was our queen for good sake, The last one!) :)
 

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No unfortunately I don't l know much about her, but I know that she was a widow at the time. Did you ....??? ... You nasty old :)
Just, kidding. Or am I Jonny? :) She was in her 60s at the time, but she was good looking woman and its a queen!

I know something ( a lot) about Serbian (Yugoslavian) dynasty she was married in. Most interesting data for this board would be that grandfather of her husband did served legion.
I guess you two did come upon that subject. Did you Jonny? (That was our queen for good sake, The last one!) :)

Hi Dusa,

No, of course not! Silly man. I behaved very proper and respectful, as one does when having a glass or two of bublies with a Queen whilst overlooking the most romantic part of the Grand Canal in Venice.

But we got along very well, without all the complications of a romance, and chatted about a number of things, especially Yugoslavia, and the political situation there. I think the legion might have also got a mention, as it does when one is chatting with a Queen.

I remember at one stage I suggested that I could rent a car and we could drive together to Yugoslavia, but she declined the offer with a laugh, and then a sorrowful expression.

A lovely woman all around. She would have made a great Queen for you ‘pitskos’.

I’ii try to attach a few snippets of information for you.
Not sure if it will work.
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King Peter II and Queen Alexandra at their wedding day, 20 March 1944. From left to right: King George VI of the United Kingdom, King Peter II, Queen Alexandra and King George II of Greece.
However, it wasn't her cousin Philip whom Alexandra finally married. In 1942, the Princess met her third cousin,[c] King Peter II of Yugoslavia in an officers' gala at Grosvenor House. The 19-year-old sovereign had lived in exile in London since the invasion of his country by the Axis powers on 6 April 1941. Quickly, they fell in love with each other and considered marriage, which greatly delighted Princess Aspasia. However, the sharp opposition of Queen Mother Maria of Yugoslavia (Peter II's mother) and the Yugoslav government-in-exile, which deemed it indecent to celebrate a wedding while Yugoslavia was dismembered and occupied, prevented for a while the marital project. For two years, the lovers had only brief meetings in the residence of the Duchess of Kent.[40][41]

After a brief stay of Peter II in Cairo, Egypt, the couple finally married on 20 March 1944. The ceremony, at which the King's mother refused to participate, was held at the Yugoslav embassy in London.[42] Marked by restrictions due to the war, Alexandra wore a wedding dress that was lent her by Lady Mary Lygon, wife of Prince Vsevolod Ivanovich of Russia(himself the son of Princess Helen of Serbia). Among the guests at the ceremony, there were four reigning kings and queens (George VI of the United Kingdom, George II of Greece, Haakon VII of Norway and Wilhelmina of the Netherlands) and several other members of European royalty, including the two brothers of the groom (Prince Tomislavand Prince Andrew), the mother of the bride, the British Queen Elizabeth, Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester and Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent.[41][43][44]
 

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And the Venice connection:


Queen Alexandra.

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See also: Garden of Eden (Venice)
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The Garden of Eden, Venice.
In 1927, Alexandra and her mother moved to Ascot, Berkshire, in the United Kingdom. They were greeted by Sir James Horlick, 4th Baronet and his family, who harbored them in their castle near the hippodrome.[26] Now seven years old, Alexandra was enrolled in boarding schools in Westfield and Heathfield, as was the custom for the upper class. However, the Princess took very badly to this experience:[10][27] separated from her mother, she stopped eating and eventually contracted tuberculosis. Alarmed, Aspasia thus moved her daughter to Switzerland for treatment.[10] Later, Alexandra was educated in a Parisian finishing school, during which time she and her mother stayed at the Hotel Crillon.[5][28]
Eventually, the two Princesses settled on the Island of Giudecca in Venice, where Aspasia acquired a small property with her savings and Horlick's financial support. The former home of Caroline Eden, great-aunt of British Prime Minister Anthony Eden, the villa and its 3.6 hectares of landscaped grounds were nicknamed the Garden of Eden, which delighted the Greek Princesses.[29][30]
 

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I remember at one stage I suggested that I could rent a car and we could drive together to Yugoslavia, but she declined the offer with a laugh, and then a sorrowful expression.

A lovely woman all around. She would have made a great Queen for you ‘pitskos’.

I think she (whole royal family ) did not have permission for entering the country at the time. I'm reading now, she actually never did been on Yugoslavia soil. She was married in our royal family and the was princess of Greece.

Her son (crown prince) now living at the royal palace in Belgrade. He is not crowned. It's bit funny and shame when he talks in bad Serbin with heavy English accent.


So, what did queen told you about political situation of Yugoslavia at the time Jonny?
 

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Dusaboss,

This was about 40 years ago. I don’t really remember the details of our conversations, and she wasn’t actually wearing a crown or anything. She was just a dignified older lady that I shared a glass, or two, of some good Spumante with. I don’t think any of us was that up to scratch with Yugoslavia and Tito, anyway. But you are right, she told me she was forbidden from entering Yugoslavia.

She was a princess of Denmark and Greece, and related to every royal family of Europe, including Norway. That’s probably why the Norwegian king Haakon VII attended her wedding.

Mind you; Jonny never got a mention in all of this royalty story. Bugger!

Queen Alexandra in her prime.

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She was a princess of Denmark and Greece, and related to every royal family of Europe, including Norway. That’s probably why the Norwegian king Haakon VII attended her wedding.

Ahh, they are all related. No wonder why conspiracy theories like shape-shifting lizard rulers pop-up. :)
 

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They are all related
Joke coming
My wife, my mother, my daughter, my auntie and my cousine died last night in an horrific car crash
Her funeral is next Tuesday
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Welcome to European royal families, Queen Alexandria would be related to Prince Phillip?
 

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Oh well, every sociaty just has to have a top dog, so the European royalties are just fine with me. What are the alternatives? Somebody like Sadam Hussein or Anwar Sadat or Erdogan or Idi Amin or Ghadafi or Donald Trump or Theresa May or Frau Merkel? And the list goes on and on, Pol Pot anybody?

Nah, King Harald or Queen Elizabeth are just fine with me. But then again, what do I know, I’m only 78 years old.
 
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Jonny,

Only 78, I thought by your posts you were older than me ! I am 80 next b/day.
On 20/06/1956 at 17+3 weeks I joined the Royal Marines, three months before Suez when our commandos fought along side the FFL. They even rode on Legion tanks, debussed and use the fork (Bayonet). Operation Musketeer. I remained under training but learnt from others that the FFL were superb. Were you serving then ?
 

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Ewan doing what us Scots do best. .complaing / morning
A parodie but near to the truth
I share the same line of thinking
" we are governed by over fed / ambitious, wanquers "...trust them as far as i can throw them
 
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