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I try and avoid the topic of South African politics, too much opinion , touchy feelings and finger pointing, not enough fact. I'll be happy being Google translate:giggle:
As I understand many white people from SA wouldn't agree with "referred to as the father of the nation by South Africans" part.
 

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As I understand many white people from SA wouldn't agree with "referred to as the father of the nation by South Africans" part.
There's a common misconception that only the whites of South Africa have a negative view on the ending of Apartheid and how it was done.

Some of the more extremist views on the black side viewed Mandela as a sell out who stopped the "Revolution."

On a interesting side note it wasn't the ANC or SACP that ended apartheid. There was a referendum held in 1992 in which only whites could vote to either end apartheid or continue it. 87% of the White population voted to end apartheid.....
 

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Oh well, on this day my wife and I went shopping for vegetables, we also picked up a few cases of beer, so my future seems pretty well secured. The weather is fine. Basically another Groundhog Day in my neck of the woods, and I’m not complaining either.
 
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Oh well, on this day my wife and I went shopping for vegetables, we also picked up a few cases of beer, so my future seems pretty well secured. The weather is fine. Basically another Groundhog Day in my neck of the woods, and I’m not complaining either.
:ROFLMAO:Big Jonny
 
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Ira Hayes was the Native American who just did not want to be in the lime light. If I remember correctly, he met a sad death but was still buried with full military honours.
 

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Ira Hayes was the Native American who just did not want to be in the lime light. If I remember correctly, he met a sad death but was still buried with full military honours.
He became a very bad alcoholic, Iwo Jima was hell on earth
 

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