Papillon
Legionnaire
I mean. My intention is not argue with you, but i would like some explanations here. (As much as I love you I'm always having hard time understanding what you saying... you north Britains )
Am guess in your time fitness isn't so important (of course they would let in some fat fack). Now I think things are changed. Isn't enough anymore just to be really willing to join (just my opinion). Jo have to show some level of fitness. Nothing too much, but reasonably fit for active young man.
You saying you self that 15/20 pull ups are norm? And then you say "most guys could hold their own top of the rope with just Arms ". How's that? That's two statements don't go together
One is the bar for chins
One is the rope
Two different things