QUESTION Social security

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Hey, everyone, I would like to know about this issue of not paying social security for the time been spent in the legion is five years. in my country if you don't work you have to pay every month to the government social security services. I assume that most of the country's do the same and maybe some of you ex legioners or active ones have a solution. from what I know is that I will need to prove that I was living in another foreign country in my case as a soldier and soldiers don't pay social security payments but would I be able to prove that I was a legioner after? do I get some kind of document proving that in the end ?
 
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You have to pay to social security services even if you officially don't have any income !?! Man that is really bad. I know that isn't case in most (probably all) European countries. In fact if you don't have any income government will give you some money so you can survive at some low level. (In fact in many EU countries than money is pretty close to minimum wage!)

So in Israel, government will take your money no matter do you have it or not? Man, now some stereotypes about Jewish people don't look so silly. :)

Why do you have Armenian flag?
 
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Yeah if you don't show up every week to sign that you are not employed then you have to pay 160 NIS and in 5 years it's 10000. It's literally paying for the air you breath. Not quite got you there in why do you have an armenian flag?
 
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There's a lot of things I wish I'd done, but as you're 39 and thinking of joining the legion, I'd concentrate on that, otherwise it will be another topic to add to your never never bucket list.

Getting back to the subject, I take it that in Israel you have to pay in social security for your retirement? As le petit caporal states, you pay SS and taxes etc, but this is deducted from your pay so you don't even notice it. You will have have a social security number, in fact it will be on your ID card. When you leave you will be give given a certificate of good conduct which will show that you have served in the legion. towards the end of your 5 years you can go to see you bureau major company offices and ask them to apply for a certificate from the French government saying that you have paid taxes and SS. If (it depends who the kn*bbers in the office are) they won't do it they will at least tell you how to go about doing it.
That's very helpful thank you Joseph I will probebly will have more than 10000 because of fees but if I would be able to prove that I paid my part in a friendly country such as French and more then that as a soldier than they will have to abort the charge but if not then they are truly are thieves as everyone thinks
 

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It is worth checking is there upper limit for fees like that. In Poland there is similar situation with health insurance (I'm not sure what You mean by social security). And in Poland there is upper limit for how much money can stack on this debt (I believe it was something around equivalent of 1500 euro). And they don't care that I'm paying taxes abroad, I simply get benefits/care from another country, where I pay taxes.

But I'm pretty sure that in Poland you can also simply erase debt by going to job- as soon as they pay your insurance tax, you happen to be up to date. At least it worked something like that some time ago (I live abroad). It might also erase debt with signing as unemployed in local job center- then you get insurance from them as long as you have status of unemployed (which you can also lose for few months by not meeting their requirements of what unemployed person is obliged to do), but debt erases again (this one is maybe). So you can get insurance back by paying debt, going to work which will give you insurance or sign in job center. So maybe there is a way? Unless social security is something else than I assumed.
 
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It is worth checking is there upper limit for fees like that. In Poland there is similar situation with health insurance (I'm not sure what You mean by social security). And in Poland there is upper limit for how much money can stack on this debt (I believe it was something around equivalent of 1500 euro). And they don't care that I'm paying taxes abroad, I simply get benefits/care from another country, where I pay taxes.

But I'm pretty sure that in Poland you can also simply erase debt by going to job- as soon as they pay your insurance tax, you happen to be up to date. At least it worked something like that some time ago (I live abroad). It might also erase debt with signing as unemployed in local job center- then you get insurance from them as long as you have status of unemployed (which you can also lose for few months by not meeting their requirements of what unemployed person is obliged to do), but debt erases again (this one is maybe). So you can get insurance back by paying the debt, going to work which will give you insurance or sign in job center. So maybe there is a way? Unless social security is something else than I assumed.
The only way is go to them and prove that you paid social services
Israel has signed a Social Security Treaty with the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Norway, Portugal, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, France, Romania, Russia, Sweden and Switzerland.

There is also a limited treaty with Canada (with the exception of Quebec). The treaty with Canada regulates the prevention of double payment of insurance contributions and post-paid employees only.
 

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I see, I was wandering that there might be similar system. But, anyway, guys above clarified it for You well enough.
 

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