The chance of dying...

#21
if you are scared of dying maybe the forces aren't for you, because the way the world is then there is a strong possibility of you going somewhere not nice . This is not meant to sound pre judgmental but if the proverbial did happen could you stand along side your brother in arms.
 
#22
if you are scared of dying maybe the forces aren't for you, because the way the world is then there is a strong possibility of you going somewhere not nice . This is not meant to sound pre judgmental but if the proverbial did happen could you stand along side your brother in arms.
Scouse, no BS when I cross the bar. Cremation and ashes to be spread in good company at the RM Memorial Garden- Eastney. No church service, just a prayer if anyone feels so inclined in the Crematoria Chapel. All arranged and reading some posts I am looking forward to it.;););)
 

USMCRET

Active Member
#27
Look, you are far more likely to die in an accident or from a disease. Think of how many Marines, Legionnaires, Soldiers, and more have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, hundreds of thousands to millions have served. US casualties around, slightly less than 6,000, have been killed in Iraq, the theater I served in in 2003, 2004, and 2005. Do the math 6,000 divided by 1,000,000 = it equates to .006%.

Your training, the advancements in medical treatments, and the tactics all are in your favor, that is if you are in the US Armed Forces or our outstanding Legion and UK allies.

In the end, Joe summed it up, if it is your time, it is your time. In 2004 in Iraq our FOB had over 400 mortar and rocket strikes in 7-months, it was like lightning and if God wanted you he wanted you.

Be more concerned about drunk drivers, walking the streets of London or Chicago or any number of large cities, is far, far more dangerous.
 

dusaboss

Hyper Active Member
#28
Agree USMCRET. Especially when we have in consideration numbers of men (OK ... and women) died in the past wars.

Number of people dying in wars are more or less constantly dropping as time goes one. So, let's compare just last century wars. WW1 slaughterhouse, WW2... bad, but still better than last big war. Algeria, Korea, Vietnam much better. First gulf war (some of as taking part in it ;)) really good job. Also there is high dominance on side of coalition forces, but still can be taken in consideration. Second time in Iraq, also less casualties. And so on...

So it means no! Soldiers today really don't have to worry that much about dying. Honestly there is really small chance in percentage that one gonna die today as soldier. Actually there is many other civil professions there chance of dying is many times greater, but it doesn't look so scary at first glimpse. And no I don't think on "police officer"... They are protected as polar bears :mad:!

So... one joining today should not worry about dying at all. As USMC said there is much greater chance that you as young male would die in car crash than as soldier. In FFL you can't drive for first 5 years so you actually increase your chances to survive when all is taken in consideration. ;)

Any way :) ... if your convoy is cut off in middle of desert, greatly outgunned and outnumbered ... hmm? At that point you can throw all statistic trough of window, give your best, hold together and hope for best. ;)

But you probably should't care about that scenario neither because biggest killer of soldiers in modern battlefields is IED !
 

mark wake

Actual or Former Legionnaire
Legionnaire
#29
Scouse, no BS when I cross the bar. Cremation and ashes to be spread in good company at the RM Memorial Garden- Eastney. No church service, just a prayer if anyone feels so inclined in the Crematoria Chapel. All arranged and reading some posts I am looking forward to it.;););)
Charles mon ami. We are part of the old farts league now. For better or for worst! Ironically as I text with this bloody iPhone i’m Watching a bridge too far! at least the para smocks look familiar! its good to sit back and let the younger lads have their say. the dumb posts ignore! as for crossing the bar? I think the devil marched with us quite a few times! Bart set that example on this forum as no one could! Our ashes? Ah! Let them blow with the wind! Meanwhile enjoy being an old fart. You are not alone. Be well my friend.
 
#30
Mark,

Thank you. In my day other than Paras we were the only unit to wear Denizon Smocks. Also we had different helmets to the Army.(y)

I enjoy belonging to the 'Old Farts' brigade. Fortunately there are some good lads on this forum. However it is a shame that there are fewer Greens than in days of yore.

But we still have the forum's 'Ace Mascot' Dusaboss, who in reality is AOK. Hopefully he will join before the Grim Reaper reaches me.:)
 
#32
I thought the Green Beret provided all the head protection required, 10x stronger than steel or Kevlar!;)
Colonel Moulton who commanded 48 Commando RM in Normandy specifically warned all ranks that a Green Beret would simply not be adequate protection even if it frightened the Germans.

In 1959 when I was posted to Eastney/ Portsmouth he was the then resident Portsmouth Group Maj General. As a new YO/Shavetail I had to leave 2 visiting cards on a silver plate in his hall of residence. He would then know my name and rank. I was in awe of him as a callow young man. In fact he was avuncular.;)

All officers had to present visiting cards when they joined a new unit. I doubt that this now happens.

RMs' can walk on water but Paras even with water wings simply drown.:D Finally I expect incoming from Mark with a 'Blue on Blue':unsure:
 

mark wake

Actual or Former Legionnaire
Legionnaire
#33
Colonel Moulton who commanded 48 Commando RM in Normandy specifically warned all ranks that a Green Beret would simply not be adequate protection even if it frightened the Germans.

In 1959 when I was posted to Eastney/ Portsmouth he was the then resident Portsmouth Group Maj General. As a new YO/Shavetail I had to leave 2 visiting cards on a silver plate in his hall of residence. He would then know my name and rank. I was in awe of him as a callow young man. In fact he was avuncular.;)

All officers had to present visiting cards when they joined a new unit. I doubt that this now happens.

RMs' can walk on water but Paras even with water wings simply drown.:D Finally I expect incoming from Mark with a 'Blue on Blue':unsure:
Bloody cheek! You lot can’t even navigate! Some years ago the Royal Marines invaded the wrong country! 🤣 it took two Spanish coppers to tell the Royal Marine officer where he was!🤔 poor lord Nelson must of been spinning in his grave! I heard later some of the lads from pathfinder platoon sent you lot a case of crabs 🦀 in ice. One of them holding a compass!
 
#34
Bloody cheek! You lot can’t even navigate! Some years ago the Royal Marines invaded the wrong country! 🤣 it took two Spanish coppers to tell the Royal Marine officer where he was!🤔 poor lord Nelson must of been spinning in his grave! I heard later some of the lads from pathfinder platoon sent you lot a case of crabs 🦀 in ice. One of them holding a compass!
Mark good post ! Nice incoming.;)
I am not surprised. Never trust an officer with a map or a matelot with a gun.
By the way the Brigade Patrol Troop is as multi skilled as the Para Pathfinder Pln.
If in doubt Google. They rotated in various ops. :)
 
#35
Bloody cheek! You lot can’t even navigate! Some years ago the Royal Marines invaded the wrong country! 🤣 it took two Spanish coppers to tell the Royal Marine officer where he was!🤔 poor lord Nelson must of been spinning in his grave! I heard later some of the lads from pathfinder platoon sent you lot a case of crabs 🦀 in ice. One of them holding a compass!
remember seeing that.. The marines Always bum themselves up a lot but on tours like Afgan they were the same as Army Infantry. no better,no worse.
 
#36
Both SAS and Para patrols in NI inadvertently crossed the border to be escorted back by the Garda with a discreet flea in their ears. :unsure: GOC NI was not amused.

RM were granted the 'Great Globe itself' in perpetuity since they had more battle honours than any other regiments who, as you know display them on flags.:)

As for our indiscretion, it amused the sun bathers and made the CGRM give a bollocking which could be heard from Whitehall to Gib.:D
 
#37
Both SAS and Para patrols in NI inadvertently crossed the border to be escorted back by the Garda with a discreet flea in their ears. :unsure: GOC NI was not amused.

RM were granted the 'Great Globe itself' in perpetuity since they had more battle honours than any other regiments who, as you know display them on flags.:)

As for our indiscretion, it amused the sun bathers and made the CGRM give a bollocking which could be heard from Whitehall to Gib.:D
Hold on Chas.. was the first Commandos in 1940 not from the Army?:p
 
#38
Hold on Chas.. was the first Commandos in 1940 not from the Army?:p
I have never suggested otherwise ! However albeit volunteers in some ways they were rather amateur with small boat handling and yes they were the first. Several individual RMs served in No. 8 Army Cdo. When the decision was made to expand the commandos a call was made for RM volunteers. The weak were weeded out and either not accepted immediately or RTUd'. Unbiased historians maintain that the Army usurped the RM role.

As a point of interest as I stated before in another post it was only in 1960 that every Royal had to be commando qualified. When I joined there were sea service RMs', RM Gunners' Small boat handlers, RM engineers and a host of others all non Cdo qualified. EVEN SBS were made to undertake the CCse irrespective of their war or active service. Quite crass in my opinion.
 
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