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How effective is training with Vo2 phantom mask? What do you recommand, training old school or with mask?
 
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It is a great way to look like a fool in the gym and on the road.

You look like bane, without the muscle. The mask is basically forcing you to breath through a straw.

better to spend the money on a bicycle and just train/run harder

edit: a lot of evidence points to the mask being generally useless. breathing through a straw =/= training on a mountain with pressure and limited air.
 

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Excepting how you look like, the mask is limiting the air you get and it is said that increases your vo2 capacity. I know that the luc leger measures your Vo2 capacity, the mask is useless at all? Using the mask increases the training's intensity because you can t get how much air you want and expands pulmonary's alveolas. Some other opinions based on other things than the aspect?
 

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I think that focusing on breathing is the key when it comes to increasing endurance and mental toughening and limiting the air you get is a valuable thing because you will adapt your body to high intensity-low air flow and without mask you can imagine ;)
 

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Celestin mask is just marketing trick to sell your peace of useless rubber. Yes, idea behind it is that limited air flow would mimic high altitude low O2 levels and force your body to make more red blood cells what training in motions really does, but when you train in mountains you stay there for couple weeks and you breathing low O2 air 24h.

There is no any proof that mask could do the same. In fact easily could turn out that mask actually damaging your health.
 

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I hear people all the time sayin HIIT cardio is better. Tabata & they believe fat will melt off even an after burn Effect up to 24 hours after Training. We called it fartlek in my day, Swedish meaning Speed play. Just change the Tempo on my runs. The mask i would not bother with myself. I would feel a Gimp myself wearing it...i remember years back two guys Weight Training in our drying room...wearing respirators, was funny. Must have sweated buckets as they tried to Breath.... LOL
 
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seen some weird shit in the Gyms here where i live. I used to work as a Trainer. I learned Sport und Fitnesskaufmann here also Fitness Trainer when i was 40. Young "hardgainers" built like a stick insect trying to do a 6 Day a week Routine. Just don´t work. same with cardio. you Need rest Days too. Actually the mask reminds me of a porno i saw being played in Angies Bar a whore house Right outside camp in Hohne Germany... Picture below. was a Woman wearing a Respirator with the mouth piece open giving oral...haha.
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Sexpert,

The key words ; Gin dobre, yetem pan (Joe Bloggs/whatever.) Te yesterh badza wadna pinkna.
Ya moveemy poppolski.

Good morning, I am Joe Bloggs. You are really very pretty. I am a learner of Polish.

This is from my evil and mischievous past. Also remember to say, after whatever transpires; Ginquia Bardzo- Than you very much. Ginquia can suffice.
 
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Sexpert,

The key words ; Gin dobre, yetem pan (Joe Bloggs/whatever.) Te yesterh badza wadna pinkna.
Ya moveemy poppolski.

Good morning, I am Joe Bloggs. You are really very pretty. I am a learner of Polish.

This is from my evil and mischievous past. Also remember to say, after whatever transpires; Ginquia Bardzo- Than you very much. Ginquia can suffice.
Most speak German here as I do myself. Last one I met was a Krankenpfleger.. Looked after old people. Blond with great Body. First time we met we went for a walk. Straight away she grabbed my Arm...then worked her way down to Arm around my waist. Half an hour later giving great oral in my car. She was going the full way but it was broad daylight & i had no rubber. Hahaha....Polska.. Polska.
 
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Lot of East European women in Germany. Working here. Like to please a man. It's a shame we are being over flooded with Trash from so called refugee countries. Most are young guys who run around the streets at night in Gangs. In Winter i run evenings on the streets & summer i run in the woods here. I saw lots of them last Winter. Never bothered me though . utter scum.
 
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I attended the Poznan Trade Fair when under communism. I was representing Racal Electronics. Later I visited Poland when operating a charity and taking supplies into Poland. I went all over and found the Poles to be very decent people.

There is a dish called 'Golanka', pork in a roll. We used to call it Russki am Kabul. At that time the Russians were heavily involved in Afghanistan.

I also did other things there at Nepla, Biopalaska on the Russian border by the river Bug. Ladies sadly were not involved.
 
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Celestin mask is just marketing trick to sell your peace of useless rubber. Yes, idea behind it is that limited air flow would mimic high altitude low O2 levels and force your body to make more red blood cells what training in motions really does, but when you train in mountains you stay there for couple weeks and you breathing low O2 air 24h.

There is no any proof that mask could do the same. In fact easily could turn out that mask actually damaging your health.
I hope it's not damaging to my health. As a firefighter I've done quite a bit of cardio wearing SCBA gear. The masks are the same, there is a diaphragm in the mask to prevent firefighters from sucking down too much air while they are in a panic or overly excited. That said this mask does seem over priced for what it is as the diaphragm is a simple piece of plastic. I'm surprised if there aren't cheaper alternatives although all I did is grab an older mask from the department and wear it for light jogging to get used to the restricted air flow. I would recommend training with this mask if you expect to ever be in an environment where there is limited oxygen or you expect to have to wear similar gear at one point. Being unable to breath can be a very anxiety inducing experience and becoming anxious in such situation makes the problem that much worse!
 

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I hope it's not damaging to my health. As a firefighter I've done quite a bit of cardio wearing SCBA gear. The masks are the same, there is a diaphragm in the mask to prevent firefighters from sucking down too much air while they are in a panic or overly excited. That said this mask does seem over priced for what it is as the diaphragm is a simple piece of plastic. I'm surprised if there aren't cheaper alternatives although all I did is grab an older mask from the department and wear it for light jogging to get used to the restricted air flow. I would recommend training with this mask if you expect to ever be in an environment where there is limited oxygen or you expect to have to wear similar gear at one point. Being unable to breath can be a very anxiety inducing experience and becoming anxious in such situation makes the problem that much worse!
That different when you train with that reasons. Armies also have some training under gas mask, but that isn't so often.
 
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That different when you train with that reasons. Armies also have some training under gas mask, but that isn't so often.
I agree. The point I was getting at is that training it would help prevent anxiety when you run out of oxygen though, so I could see training with it as beneficial if you go into high altitudes where it feels like you can't catch your breath. I grew up in the mountains with high altitudes. There will never be a substitute for the experience and physical conditioning. The pressure change alone will make your head feel like it is full of water for some time.

I don't think there were would be any physical benefits for training with the mask personally.
 
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